Thursday, July 24, 2008

What makes you an IITian ??

Today when a student thinks of his carrier in the field of engineering, he suddenly develops a dream of becoming an IIT Engineer. It was foretold that by some of my elders that for getting admission in IIT’s you really need to be intelligent. But with new complete fee structure and government policy of caste discrimination this proverb is loosing its value.

If today young aspirants will ask me about the admission in IIT’s, I will simply reply him back that you require two things for becoming an IIT Engineer.

1. 1. You should have a real conceptual mind (or you can develop them in new trends higher secondary school i.e. deemed Coaching Institutes).

2. 2. Your Father’s pocket should be full of cash (a turning point for becoming an IIT Engineer).

Today when any student starts his preparation for JEE, the most important step is

· Selection of Coaching

Due to recent change in the examination pattern of JEE, it has become important even for a real intelligent person to join coaching for JEE. These new higher secondary schools of India are the real makers of IITian. Without these a person can’t think of becoming an IITian.

Now, if we take a look over the fees taken by these reputed schools for providing their valuable efforts to make the future of your children, you will come to know the importance of these institutes for your child.

There are basically two modes of joining a coaching institute. Either you can go to hub cities of coaching institutes like KOTA, DELHI etc, or you can do preparation in your home with a less popular coaching institute and a correspondence of any hot shot coaching.

Plan A: - Preparation in HUB CITIES

EASONS

FEES

Coaching tuition fee

Rs. 40,000/- per annum

Housing charge

Rs. 2000/- per month

Mess charge

Rs. 1500/- per month

Stationary charges

Rs. 700/- per month

Other charges

Rs.1200/- per month

Plan B: - Preparation in your own city

REASONS

FEES

Coaching tuition fees

Rs. 35,000/- per annum

Stationary charges

Rs. 700/- per month

Correspondence material charges

Rs. 12,000/- per annum

Plan A, Total expenditure in two years: - Rs. 1, 44,480.

Plan B, Total expenditure in two years: - Rs. 1, 02, 400.

Now even after this there is no surety that your child is going to get selection in any of the IIT’s with any shit branch. So, there is a trend of wasting one important year of your life which is called as a drop in these new Higher Secondary School. Even if you have got something in other good colleges like NIT’s etc. they will force you to waste one year to get admission in IIT’s.

I don’t want anyone to not get selected in these IIT’s in the first attempt of JEE , after two year of comprehensive study in these Institutes, but since due to great population of India as the percentage of selection is only 2% . So, around 40% of the student who don’t get select in there fresh year, take drop and again start cramming for JEE. As with new pattern of JEE, the importance of cramming is more than the mere intelligence of a candidate.

Now you have chased your dream and you have got admission in prestigious IIT’s, but your father’s pocket is going to suffer a lot . Now, here is the fees structure of an IIT (Revised one which came into effect in current year 2008-09)

INDIAN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY, BOMBAY

Fees for B.Tech/DD/ 5-Yr M.Sc. students admitted during the academic year 2008-09


Now this is fees payable for one semester in IIT Bombay and the mess charges are not included in this as it depends on the intake of a child. Mess advance normally comes as 15,000/- per semester . So, if we add up the fees of one year excluding the refundable fees and the fees that is being charge annually.

Total = Rs. 1,02,752 (for GN/OBC) , Rs. 52,752 (for SC/ST)

Now total cost for making your child an IITian if your child clears JEE in his first attempt would be around = (1, 44,480 + 4*1,02,352) = Rs. 5,53,888 /-

So, now it would be quite sure for you all that for becoming an IITian your child should have brain and you should also have money which is really a turning point in your child’s selection in JEE and for the dream of your child to become an IITian.



13 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't get this IIT/ IIM bashing that people do based on half-truths.I don't know if you have studied at an IIT or all of what yo have said is mere here-say.

Why do we want to pull down or own national institutions that have been producing quality talent for ages now. For one, whats the cost of getting in Stanford or MIT ever tried calculating that ? Do you say the same for MIT, stan. CMU too ?

Second, yes i agree that your analysis holds true for about 30% of the students at an IIT. But for every one student like that you'll meet 2 guys who are true geniuses in thier own right.

Also, if you are a department topper or u have a decent acad record in the each semester and can prove that your parental income is below 2 lacs a year, then the Govt provided most of your tuition fees.

So I don't think you need deep pockets.


Look at any industry today most the top guys are grads from IIT, IIM or some other premeir institute in India. I took a year drop, studied in my own city but I don't think i went to IIT to get a secure cushy job and a great salary but what I learnt from IIT was humility, confidence and healthy competition studying with some of the best minds.

I think a good system moulds your character. I don't think NIT is lesser than IIT and a student at IIT is more intelligent than one at NIT. But yes I'll stick o this that IIT offers a broader view of life than NIT does.


- an IIT grad
write2vin[AT]gmail[DOT]com

vinay speaks said...

You are at BITS pilani which is as good as an IIT and in some areas maybe even better.

So, Shashank tell me what made you spend so much of your time to do this half-baked analysis and indulge in tirade against IITs ?


The grudge that you couldn't study at IIT ?????
or that general junta don't give you as much 'awe and admiration' as they give to an IITian.

-vinay

Kshitiz Anand said...

lol at this post!

I think you need to spend more time talking to IITians to know a lot more things about IITs, before you can write about it.

1) You DO NOT need to be in a coaching institute to succeed. Have the brains, have the confidence, crack the JEE yourself. No need to study in Kota, Delhi etc.

2) Its called the Merit Scholarship(for department toppers) and the Means Scholarships (for families with less income), which you might want to know for your future posts.

3) I agree to quite a lot about what Vinay has said!

What IIT taught me was to be confident of myself. Of venturing out into a field which I was not even aware of, and excelling at it.

There are many more things that you will just not understand, as you have never been a part of it!
I agree that there are other universities in India, which are at par in terms of academics, and some better in terms of research etc, but the whole environment, of being amongst the best brains in the country is something to cherish and cannot be explained in words.

shanky......... said...

@ an IIT grad
write2vin[AT]gmail[DOT]com
Dude i do not have an envy for IITian or IIT , i just wanted to show Indian government that quality engineering education is becoming difficult for Indian People.

If you will closely look at the new revised fees structure of IIT , you will also think that it's too much and the new JEE pattern
does require a continuous preparation which does require a good coaching .

More than 90% of the people who get a rank in JEE are coaching students or taking correspondance courses .

@Vinay : i guess you got your answer from my above statement.

@kshitij : I guess i am not writing about any personnel stuff about IIT or IITian , so i don't think that i need to talk to any IITian about this . I have just presented a real fact and it's on you to decide whether you will believe on those facts or want to lead yourself in same fake trust.

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Anonymous said...

what about the fees in bits pilani or any private colleges like vit,mit
you have to pay around 7 lacs for 4 years
donot forget that in iit and nit if your parent has low income you get good scholarships
anyways what you said about coaching institute is correct

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Anonymous said...

Analysis is totally flawed.

-ram

Anonymous said...

and what about the consultancy services.vit seat for 12 lacs,kiit 5 lacs and so on and so forth.coaching i guess is much cheaper.and most importantly tying an ass in coaching does not produce an iitian.

Prateek said...

As far as expenditure is concerned - there are three possible cases. Either your family have money; they don't ; or they have but also have a fake income certificate [typical case of an Indian village]. In case I and III, you need not worry. In case two, you get Rs. 25,000 per semester in addition to Rs. 1000 per month and all the reference books for a mere sum of Rs. 91 from the library. So, as far as IIT is concerned, the total cost comes down to Rs. 12,000 per semester. And you can take Scholar Loan anytime (which has to be paid by the IIT grad once he starts earning).

So, Rs. 1,44,000 is what your parent should have if you want to get to IIT...which is, as of now, bit of a problem considering to high level of an average school's teachers!!

Anonymous said...

i totally agree with u....
coaching classes hv totally destroyed d academic ecosystem....
iits r supposed 2 tk INTELLIGENT ppl nt hardwrkng donkeys....
yet despite hvng an iq of 166, i made it only into d EML in jee 2011...
totally sux

Anonymous said...

addition: iits only hv their name nd fame due to their selected students NOT due to d faculty, research or infrastructure!
all hail jairam ramesh!!!